Saturday, May 29, 2010
Joyce McCloy and McCarthyism: Her Latest Distortions
NC Voter's Joyce McCloy is at it again. It's fine to be against instant runoff voting, but Ms. McCloy unfortunately seems ready to oppose it in a matter I associate with Joseph McCarthy -- distortions, innuendo and even outright lies, as detailed earlier this week.
It's hard to pick a "lowlight" from her litany of attacks on us and other backers of instant runoff voting, but I suspect it was her effort in the wake of verified voting champion John Gideon's death last year to spread the allegation among his friends that I was seeking to use his death to promote instant runoff voting. I received tearful communications asking me how I could do this, given his neutrality on the subject when iin fact my blog post featuring a tribue to him was entirely focused on a subject he and I regularly had discussed at our conferences he attended and by email: public ownership of voting equipment.
Now in a post at several of her blogs she is distorting a comment on a news article by FairVote's board chair Krist Novoselic where he was defending IRV against typical over-the-top attacks from Ms. McCloy. The context of Krist's comment was that reformers have a lot to do in different areas of the electoral process, but in no way was he suggesting that seeking secure elections wasn't important. But once again I've already heard from some of our reform allies concerned that we don't take issues like manual audits and transparent elections seriously.
That's of course not true. We were the first national group to propose establishing an affirmative right to vote in the Constitution, highlighting a full range of federal, state and local laws and practices undermining suffrage rights. For years, we have helped lead the call for public interest voting equipment, with open source software and removal of profiteering from elections -- for instance, see this excerpt from a Tompaine.com commentary in 2004;
"Public Interest" voting equipment. Currently voting equipment is suspect, undermining confidence in our elections. The proprietary software and hardware are created by shadowy companies with partisan ties who sell equipment by wining and dining election administrators with little knowledge of voting technology. The government should oversee the development of publicly-owned software and hardware, contracting with the sharpest minds in the private sector. And then that open-source voting equipment should be deployed throughout the nation to ensure that every county -- and every voter -- is using the best equipment.
We've proposeed procedures for auditing ranked choice voting elections and periodicaly highlight our views in communications to our members, like this November 2009 Innovative Analysis. Here also is a link to our statement on election security and audits overall.
But Ms. McCloy charges that we don't care about secure elections and suggests that our "outside money" is why so many people in her state support instant runoff voting. The fact is that the two staffers we had in NC for parts of 2007-2009 were funded by an in-state foundation in the wake of a new state law establishing an IRV pilot program, and we were in a support role to such influential reform groups as the League of Women Voters NC, Common Cause NC and Democracy NC, all of which continue to support IRV. Other in-state backers include several of the state's leading newspapers, as reflected by recent editorials in the Rocky Mount Telegram, Charlotte Observer, and Southern Pines Pilot -- and so do most voters in the two communities in the state that have had a chance to use IRV.
Before long we'll have more on North Carolina and Ms. McCloy's attacks on the procedures developed by the State Board of Elections for implementing it. For the moment, let me end with the famous quote from Joseph Welch, head counsel for the United States Army while it was under investigation by Joseph McCarthy's Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations for Communist activities in the 1950s:
"Until this moment, Senator, I think I have never really gauged your cruelty or your recklessness. ... You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"
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Tuesday, June 1, 2010
Instant Runoff Voting Guru attacks election integrity activist - then disappears post
Saturday, May 29, 2010
Pro instant runoff voting group shows how much they care about fair elections
Here is one of the comments posted by FairVote Chairman & former Nirvana band member KristNovoselic.

Whats with this "election security movement" bit? Or the joke about conspiracy?
Verified Voting, public observation of vote counts, chain of custody, audits, standards for voting systems, this is all a big joke to you? Its all just a conspiracy?
Don't try to peddle that to the folks in Carteret County where 4, 400 votes were lost in the 2004 General Election.
Don't pitch that to the voters in Sarasota Florida when there were 18,000 undervotes in the FL 13 congressional race.
It is a really really bad idea to belittle the verified voting movement in North Carolina. Folks from around the state worked hard for this law, we care about this law, and we continue to protect it today. And we will fight the outside interest money being used to eat away at the Public Confidence in Elections Law.
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Saturday, April 3, 2010
NC Law: Public hearing required before participation in NC's instant runoff voting pilot
In 2007, the cities of Cary and Hendersonville NC volunteered and participated in IRV, without public input. Then in 2009, only Hendersonville chose to use instant runoff voting again, and as before, did not seek public input. Cary NC's city council did provide the public a chance to comment, and subsequently abandoned the use of IRV.
Here is the section of law pertaining to requirement for at least one public hearing:
.Session Law 2009-541 SL2009-0541
SECTION 30.(a) Section 3(a) of S.L. 2008-150 reads as rewritten:
"SECTION 3.(a) The State Board of Elections is authorized to select elections for offices of local government in which to use instant runoff voting in up to 10 local jurisdictions in each of the following years: 2009, 2010, and 2011.The selection of jurisdictions and administration of instant runoff voting shall follow the provisions of Section 1(a) of Session Law 2006-192, except that the local governing board that is the subject of the election must approve participation in the pilot and must hold at least one public hearing on the pilot before approving it, with notice of the hearing published at least 10 days before the hearing. The local governing board also must agree to cooperate with the county board of elections and the Board in the development and implementation of a plan to educate candidates and voters about how to use the runoff voting method. In a multiseat contest, the Board shall modify the method used for instant runoff voting in single-seat contests to apply its essential principles suitably to that election. In the case of a board of education election where the "local governing board" must be asked to authorize instant runoff voting because nonpartisan plurality elections are normally used, the "local governing board" is the board of education itself. If instant runoff voting is used in place of the nonpartisan election and runoff method as described in G.S. 163-293, the county board of elections, with the approval of the local governing board, may hold the election on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November. The State Board of Elections, in consultation with the School of Government at the University of North Carolina, shall by January 1, 2009, develop for the pilot program authorized in this section goals, standards consistent with general election law, and criteria for implementation and evaluation. The pilot program shall be conducted according to those goals, standards, and criteria. The term "ranked choice voting" shall have the same meaning as, and may be used as a substitute for, the term "instant runoff voting" in describing the pilot."
SECTION 30.(b) This section is effective when it becomes law. The requirement for holding a public hearing applies only to primaries and elections held on and after January 1, 2010, but a local governing board may give notice of and conduct a public hearing to satisfy the requirement before January 1, 2010
Session law 2009-541 [pdf]
SL2009-541 [HTML]
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Wednesday, March 10, 2010
Chuck Herrin certified white hat hacker talks to NC lawmakers about Instant Runoff Voting
Some background on why Chuck's testimony about instant runoff voting was necessary:
During 2004 North Carolina was considering legislation for paper ballots. FairVote came along and tried to insert instant runoff voting requirements in the bill. NC would not be able to adopt a new paper ballot system until or unless FairVote's demands were met. Here we have Chuck Herrin explaining why the IRV amendment should be removed from NC's paper ballot law. FairVote's selfish amendment could very well have killed our paper ballot bill or else made it impossible for us to implement it.
Fri, 31 Dec 2004
Dear Representatives and Committee Members, I look forward to speaking to you on January 7th on the security and audit issues of electronic voting systems. I would like to thank each and everyone of you for taking the time to hear what your constituents and fellow North Carolinians have to say.
I am planning to speak briefly on Industry Standards for Information Security, Auditing, and demonstrate how to change vote totals on a running instance of Diebold's GEMS software, which is the software used to tabulate vote data from DREs as well as optically-scanned and absentee ballots. This is the software that was recently highlighted in Gaston County when the problems with vote numbers surfaced, leading to the resignation of Sandra Page after 15 years of service.
In preparation for the next meeting, I have included a link to a recent discussion of electronic voting by some of my Infosec colleagues from May of 2004 that you may find interesting. Topics include instant-runoff voting, paper trails, and communication with state officials and the public.
http://www.cs.may.ie/~mmcgaley/Download/e-voting-6-04_british.pdf
I have also included a link to the main site for the Common Criteria, which is the international standard used for building appropriately secure systems.
http://csrc.nist.gov/cc/
One other issue I wanted to touch base with you on is Instant Runoff Voting. I think that IRV is a fabulous goal, long term. It stands to greatly reduce runoff costs and other problems once we have systems that can reliably handle it. The problem right now is that our electronic voting systems cannot reliably count straight races, and even the DRE manufacturers have said that they are not ready for IRV. Complicating things, IRV introduces a more confusing system in terms of audit ability and security, since the ballots are more complex and normal indicators such as exit polls will not be able to easily reflect IRV results. Tracing back the will of the voter in the event of problems or fraud would be more difficult with IRV until a reliable procedure and design is in place, and any abuses are much less likely to be detected since the whole point of the IRV system is avoiding recounts. That's not to say that it can't be done, just that it is extremely important to get it right the first time, with proper design and certification.
Instant Runoff Voting is a great goal for us to work toward, but if we need to get a system in place for 2006 and 2008, IRV is not logistically viable. For IRV to work, we need systems that are trustworthy and reliable, and that takes more time and money than we have available before the next election. An analogy I use for IRV is the flying car - definitely possible, and a great idea, but right now we won't get there by strapping a missile to a Yugo. Would it fly? Sure - but I don't think it's what we want to rely on for safe and reliable transportation.
I would be happy to work with you towards IRV as a long-term goal, as I think it has merit as a long-term solution when properly designed and tested. I look forward to seeing all of you on the 7th, and if there is any information that you would like for me to address, please let me know!
Regards,Chuck Herrin,
CISSP, CISA, MCSE, CEHAll
outgoing correspondence is digitally signed.
Lack of a valid signature indicates possible forgery.
My public key is available at
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Saturday, March 6, 2010
Is an Instant Runoff Voting winner a consensus winner or a poor compromise?
Now, how did this guy get elected? June 10, 2007 San Francisco...So, how did it come to pass that the city's newest supervisor, Ed Jew, apparently did not even live in the Sunset District and was the choice of just 5,125 (or 26.2 percent) of voters? And the FBI is looking into what this "citizen politician" was doing with $40,000 in cash from tapioca-shop owners who had sought his help with city permits...
2 out of 3 Pierce County RCV "winners" don't have a true majority December 7, 2008 ...This is the big problem with people claiming IRV ensures a majority win in one election instead of two. if you don't have enough vote to get a majority win in the 1st column, all you are ever going to have is a larger plurality win...
Burlington Instant Runoff Election riddled with pathologies March 15, 2009 Burlington.The instant runoff election in Burlington,Vermont suffered from nearly every pathology in the book...Instant runoff voting helped Burlington incumbent Bob Kiss win by getting the most 3rd choice votes. Opponent Kurt Wright had the most 1st and 2nd choice votes but lost the election
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Thursday, March 4, 2010
The charm of instant runoff voting wears off
Burlington Vermont voters voted to repeal Instant Runoff Voting on March 2, 2010. http://goo.gl/fb/B2jQ A vote of no confidence for this boutique style voting.
The Burlington "repeal irv blog" said this about the decision : "Being charmed by it (IRV) ideologically is quite different from experiencing how it twists the results of an election. http://repealirv.blogspot.com/2010/03/irv-repealed.html
Marginal mayhem- Instant runoff voting results baffle UVA students
March 3, 2010. University of Virginia students were confused by the results of recent instant runoff voting election for student body. Strangely enough, the candidate with the most 1st and 2nd choice votes lost. Even the winner of the UVA's IRV election didn't understand the results.
http://bit.ly/9Tjz2o
The list of places that have rejected instant runoff voting grows as the reality of IRV sinks in:
Aspen Colorado, Cary North Carolina, Pierce County Washington, Burlington Vermont, the Utah Republican Party and even Georgetown University. San Francisco may be next as people get fed up and even now a lawsuit has been filed.
http://bit.ly/c6rzPt
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Tuesday, March 2, 2010
BURLINGTON - 'KISS' INSTANT RUNOFF VOTING GOODBY
The grassroots message was "KEEP VOTING SIMPLE - VOTE YES TO REPEAL IRV" . Because one thing IRV does is make voting more complex and the results can bizarre.
Here are the election results:
Channel 17's Coverage
BALLOT QUESTIONS: ALL TOWNS
BURLINGTON - All Wards Reporting
5. Charter Change to Eliminate Instant Runoff Voting for Election of
Mayor
YES 3972 52%
NO 3669
TOTAL 7641
Some background:
My Turn: If Bob Kiss is for IRV, I'm against it
Burlington's municipal household is in horrible disarray. The pie-in-the-sky hallucination called Burlington Telecom is turning into a shambles of misgovernment, while for all we know, plans for the Moran plant and the northern section of the waterfront may be heading in the same direction. Let the spring cleaning begin.
People will tell the politicians how we want to vote! This is a citizen initiative and we have the power.
It's a funny business I've only within the last year changed my mind about IRV. My distaste for the whole IRV process began when I was still the Ward 6 Election Clerk
Avoid a Tampering of Ballots on March 2: Vote in your Ward! Don't vote at City Hall or by Absentee! The ballots are stored at City Hall and can be opened and changed!
Burlington instant runoff voting:-If you didn't vote for Kiss or Wright, then you didn't vote??Say what? (with video) "Repeal IRV" Blog says that even the instant runoff voting experts admit some votes just don't count...
Burlington - Instant Runoff Voting Interviews (fascinating video)Voters who supported implementing IRV have changed their minds.
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